Post by Patrick Torsney on Jul 10, 2011 13:21:32 GMT
Anyway, we shouldn't forget that administration should ultimately be about recovery wherever possible. Even if it's happened - and I think we can reasonably safely say it has - then there may still be options available for IAS as a body
We'll have to wait for the official announcement I suppose and see what comes out in the wash
It's all definitely true. The plan apparently was to tell staff tomorrow, but of course some people went in over the weekend and found out that way on Saturday. Nice. It's all over Refugee Legal Group too. I don't know how anyone could think it was going to stay quiet for two days.
The chief exec advised staff on Fri 1st, I think it was, that they'd been consulting with the LSC and the LSC does want to see IAS survive in some form. I don't know what was said in the meetings, but it's been no secret that IAS as an organisation haven't been doing well financially. I wouldn't go so far as to say that nobody had any idea it was on the cards. Some offices are making a profit or even covering costs, but there are some that are losing a lot of money, month after month. Whether they told the LSC or not I couldn't say. There have been no offers of redundancy that I'm aware of.
Post by Patrick Torsney on Jul 11, 2011 6:37:41 GMT
Thanks hairymary, that's a little reassuring
I'm assuming that IAS management have been or are in the process of contacting staff and letting them know what the position is
My advice to any staff who haven't yet been contacted and can't contact anyone in authority is to turn up for work regardless; we've got to assume that someone will put you in the picture on arrival and outline any contingency plans
In terms of hearing cover we've again got to assume the necessary messages have got or will get to clients with hearings today. You should find out more when you speak to management. Things have probably been happening over the weekend
You can follow steve_Medley on Twitter for whatever updates he can provide as well as any info anyone can share here
Any help we can provide, just ask
Good luck everyone, I'm sure the management teams have it in hand. I know it's going to be a long tough day. Our thoughts are with you and your clients
just to note, anything on Twitter will either be second hand from RLG/former colleagues at IAS/retweets elsewhere. I'm off to the Tribunal in Manchester, so I will try and find out what they have been told about the situation.
The last thing we want to do is cause any more hurt to staff and clients. Time to knuckle down.
Post by Richard Wilkinson on Jul 11, 2011 7:36:12 GMT
In addition there are many providers in different PAs across the country who will need to know whether the IAS drop in is running at all. The reason being is that it will impact on nearby providers and I am sure that clients would benefits from providers having a little time to prepare. If you are able to find that out, many would appreciate it.
Fitzroy I work for IAS and for you to post that in what is a very distressing time for all staff is very inconsiderate and shows what kind of a person you are. The people I have worked for years have worked the arses off for a long time to try and do their very best by clients while trying to hit impossible targets. We do not deserve this and nor do our clients.
Post by Richard Wilkinson on Jul 11, 2011 8:40:09 GMT
Welcome to ilegal. We appreciate that there is a lot of upset and emotion around right now, but Ilegal is NOT a place for a slanging match. Whatever you may feel, these developments are potentially catastrophic for clients.
Please folks can we try to keep any comments appropriate to these boards. We do not want to have to delete posts, but this is the online formum for ALL legal aid professionals.
I think that at this very distressing and difficult time for all the staff and clients at IAS it is important to share information, but to keep opinions temperate and reasonable.
Administration does not necessarily mean that IAS will not continue as a going concern - keep a business running is the primary intention of administration. Obviously, there is a real risk of winding up, but this is not definite and we should await announcements from IAS and/or the Administrators.
Clearly for any business to enter administration would suggest some management issues, but trying to assert blame and throw allegations of incompetance at this stage without full information is not appropriate.
And, as queenie says, the vast majority of the staff are extremely committed and hard-working and doing the best they can for clients.
At this stage, it is a matter of wait and see what the IAS/Administrators/LSC/etc... are proposing. Any information relating to that would be most welcome so that other organisations can ensure that they are in a position to assist.