Post by nickd (Mylegal) on Jul 2, 2016 18:50:15 GMT
Much as I absolutely admire the way Jeremy Corbyn has put the importance of protecting the vulnerable back on to the agenda, I regrettably find myself being unable to support him as a potential Prime Minister capable of contesting the Tories.
I am an ardent supporter of anyone who brings contesting these hideous welfare reforms to the fore, it's completely what I stand for.
Yes, he's decent and sensible, well measured and a million and one other great virtues. But it doesn't make him electable as a Prime Minister.
Labour should be absolutely crucifying the Tories. They've messed this country up to a point where we are now committed to breaking up with Europe, our economy is at serious risk. The United Kingdom is fast becoming a wretched over-spoken presence of hatred and further division, we've seen it already with the dreadful shooting of Jo Cox and endless stories of vile loathing of others. Osborne has back tracked on 6 pointless years of austerity and no longer are we obsessed with the word 'deficit' - not so long ago it's all we ever heard. His economic plan is now in tatters and we're in debt to the tune of 1.6 Trillion £££££'s.
The Tories are entrenched with global corruption and an influential media. Sadly Cameron has brought us a horrible world of PR politics, it's not what you say, it's how you say it and who will publish it which counts.
We are in danger of being run by the most far right government of all times. A mandate of shrinking the State, reduced regulation, minimal human rights, and hatred becoming the norm. Thatcher was awful, Cameron was worse but what's next is most definitely too awful to contemplate.
The kicked of Britain deserve better, they need to be treated humanely, some sort of justice needs to be restored.
Of course Corbyn is the man who has done more than anyone to advocate all we should be fighting against. But in order to do so, he needs far more than the support of the Labour Party membership, that's just preaching to the converted. I do not for one minute think that all 172 MPs voted against Corbyn for any other reason than they were taking in to account the needs of much greater numbers of Labour voters needed to overthrow the Tories; - they were and still are representing the needs of the constituents they've lost in countless areas across the country.
I just can't see Corbyn doing all he would need to do as a PM with the necessary clout. He needs to be comfortable on stages way bigger than the Durham Miners Club, he needs to be standing square on with EU Leaders and Presidents such as Obama; - I just can't ever see him having the necessary presence.
We need a potential PM with presence and what's more we need one quickly before Labour evaporate and hand the Tories decades in power on a plate.
He should definitely stay unless someone stands against him and wins on a vote. The alternative seems to be that he should stand down and be replaced by some bland sock puppet of the kind who stood against him before and were decisively rejected. That would leave the party with a leader who would be unlikely to win a general election if they could not win or even stand in a leadership election.
If someone like Hilary Benn was imposed I think he would spend his time sucking up to the media and right wing potential voters who hate Labour anyway and would end up with a (well deserved) melt down of the Labour vote in the rest of the UK of the kind we saw in Scotland at the last election.
I would like to see Corbyn win a leadership election and then impose measures of the kind that are being suggested for re-selection of MPs so that the party can get rid of the many Z grade MPs of the kind who supported Blair over the war in Iraq but have spent the period since the leadership election being disloyal to Corbyn.
I don't disagree with your reasons for being worried about Corbyn Nick but who do you have in mind to replace him? Do you think they should be imposed by a PLP Junta which deposes the elected leader or do you think the replacement should stand and be elected?